EE 420L Engineering Electronics II Lab - Lab 4
Op-amps II, gain-bandwidth product and slewing

Spring 2019

 

Authored by Shadden Abdalla

Email: abdals1@unlv.nevada.edu

February 26, 2019

 

Prelab work:

Watch the second op amps two video, review the notes and simulate the circuits.

 

 

This lab utilizes the LM324 op-amp with VCC+=5V and VCC-=0V.

The following lab report contains:

1.     Estimation using the datasheet, the bandwidths of noninverting op-amp topologies with gains of:

a.    1

b.    5

c.    10

2.    Experimental verification of these estimates with a common-mode voltage of 2.5V.

a.    Report will have schematics of the topologies with photos and results

b.    Associated comments with reasons for any differences between estimates and experimental results.

3.    Repetition of the above steps using gains of -1. -5, and -10.

4.    The design of two circuits that measure the slew-rate of LM324

a.    One circuit with pulse input

b.    One circuit with sinewave input

c.    Support for the design decisions

d.    Comments on any differences between measurements and datasheet specifications

 

1.     Estimation using the datasheet, the bandwidths of noninverting op-amp topologies with gains of:

a.    1

b.    5

c.    10

The gain bandwidth product of the LM324 is 1.3MHz based on the datasheet.

 

 

Using the above equation for finding bandwidth and the value of gain bandwidth product that we already have we can calculate the bandwidth for the non-inverting op amps.

 

Calculated Bandwidth:

Gain

Bandwidth (BW)

1

1.3MHz

5

260KHz

10

130KHz

 

NON- INVERTING AMPLIFIER

Below is the schematic I used for all my non-inverting op-amp experiments. R1 is set to be 10k in all these experiments. R2 is changed in order to change the gain.

 

Order of operations:

In order to find the correct simulation, we need to find the -3dB frequency which corresponds to the input signal I used, 100mV.

To find the -3dB:

 

-3dB=  = about 70mVpp. To find the frequency, we changed it until we had a waveform that measured 70mVpp.

 

To find the gain:

 

The gain of a non-inverting amplifier is found using the equation:

Gain = 1 + R2/R1

 

The resistor values I used for R2 for a non-inverting amplifier are:

 

Gain of 1

Gain of 5

Gain of 10

R2 Value

0 ohms

40k ohms

90k ohms

 

EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS

 

Gain of 1:

Gain = 1 + R2/R1 = 1 + 0 = gain of 1.

 

You can see in the LTSpice sim that the roll off frequency is about 1.2MHz.

 

 

The experimental result of my non-inverting op amp with a gain of 1 matches the bandwidth given in the data sheet and the LTSpice simulation and is measured at 1.3Mhz at 68mV peak to peak, seen below in the photo. This result matches both the LTSpice simulation and the calculated value seen in the highlighted portion of the calculation chart.

 

 

 

Gain of 5:

Gain = 1 + 40k/10k = 1 + 4 = gain of 5.

 

Based on the LTSpice simulation below, you can see that the frequency should be a bit less than 200kHz, where the calculated value we found was about 260kHz.You can find the value in the spice sim by finding the -3dB frequency in the simulation. I did not put a cursor on it for a more concise lab, however, it is easy to find the value by looking at the -3dB frequency on the graph.

 

My experimental result was different than both the calculated result and the LTSpice simulation result, at 16.547kHz at 112mV. It was very difficult to get this simulation to go to 70mVpp and this is the the lowest it would get with a gain of 5.

You can see based on the highlighted line in the calculations table that the value is very off of the calculation.

 

 

 

 

Gain of 10

Gain = 1 + 90k/10k = 1 + 9 = gain of 10

 

LTSPICE Simulations show that the frequency should be at about 90kHz.

The experimental results gave a similar value, at 124.16kHz. The frequency found was like both the calculated value and the LTSpice value.

 

 

  

 

 

Results of Non-Inverting Topology:

GAIN

CALCULATED

SPICE

EXPERIMENTAL

1

1.3MHz

1.2MHz

1.3MHz

5

260kHz

200kHz

16kHz

10

130kHz

90kHz

124kHz

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion and analysis of these results: It is apparent that the experimental results are not always very close to the experimental or LTSpice results. It is important to note that the values in LTSpice and in calculation neglect practical factors and those factors are not accounted for. It is common for the experimental results to differ from the calculated ones because of many outside factors that can affect the performance of the circuit and the output values. The reasons could vary from bad equipment, wires, different chips, capacitance that was not accounted for, and inaccurate input signals. Many things can affect variations, but the important part is that these are the genuine values from the experiments and have not been altered in order to match the calculated values. It is important when performing experiments to preserve the experimental integrity of the values and find the actual value outputted. My values are off; however, they are real values. Computer simulations and calculations are used to gather a ballpark value; however, practical circuitry does not always follow calculations.

 

 

INVERTING AMPLIFIER

Order of operations:

In order to find the correct simulation, we need to find the -3dB frequency which corresponds to the input signal I used, 100mV.

To find the -3dB:

 

-3dB=  = about 70mVpp. To find the frequency, we changed it until we had a waveform that measured 70mVpp.

 

First, we need to find the Bandwidth of the inverting topology.

Gain of inverting topology= -RF/RI.

 

 

Gain of 1:

 

 = 650khz

 

Gain of 5:

 

 = 216khz

 

Gain of 10:

 

 = 118khz

 

Gain

Inverting Bandwidth (calculated)

-1

650kHz

-5

216kHz

-10

118khz

 

 

EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS:

 

Gain of -1: the bandwidth calculated was 650kHz. In LTSpice it is about 700kHz.

 

 

My experimental results matched the calculated values and the lowest it would go down to was about 85mVpp. The value I found experimentally was 650kHz.The LTSpice value and the experimental value were very close and the experimental value actually matched the calculated one exactly.

 

 

 

 

Gain of -5: The bandwidth I calculated was 216kHz.      In LTSpice, the value is lower at about 140kHz.

 

 

 

The experimental results were extremely different because I did not reach 76mV until I had inputted a 1.026MHz frequency. This could be because of external factors that we did not take in account such as capacitance and different equipment that may cause skewed results. I did not change any values to force my output to be accurate based on calculations in order to preserve accuracy and experimental integrity, even though the value was very different.

 

 

 

 

Gain of -10: The value I calculated for the gain of ten was 118kHz. In LTSpice it was lower, at about 75kHz.

 

 

The experimental result was extremely different than what I had calculated at about 538kHz. This could be because of external factors that we did not take in account such as capacitance and different equipment that may cause skewed results. I did not change any values to force my output to be accurate based on calculations in order to preserve accuracy and experimental integrity, even though the value was very different.

 

  

 

 

 

FINAL INVERTING OP-AMP RESULTS

Gain

Inverting Bandwidth (calculated)

LTSPICE

Experimental

-1

650kHz

700kHz

650kHz

-5

216kHz

140khz

1.02MHz

-10

118khz

75kHz

538kHz

 

Conclusion and analysis of these results: It is apparent that the experimental results are not always very close to the experimental or LTSpice results. It is important to note that the values in LTSpice and in calculation neglect practical factors and those factors are not accounted for. It is common for the experimental results to differ from the calculated ones because of many outside factors that can affect the performance of the circuit and the output values. The reasons could vary from bad equipment, wires, different chips, capacitance that was not accounted for, and inaccurate input signals. Many things can affect variations, but the important part is that these are the genuine values from the experiments and have not been altered in order to match the calculated values. It is important when performing experiments to preserve the experimental integrity of the values and find the actual value outputted. My values are off; however, they are real values. Computer simulations and calculations are used to gather a ballpark value; however, practical circuitry does not always follow calculations. Engineering consists of using calculated values to get a good estimate of the type of values we should input, in order to see what the practical results were.

 

 

SLEW RATE

 

The circuit I used to measure slew rate was the unity follower: noninverting with a gain of 1. Below is the circuit on the breadboard.

 

 

 

The ideal slew rate found in the datasheet is 0.4V/us.

I continued to change the frequency until the output slewed, in order to measure the slew rate. I took two measurements, the time delta and the voltage delta in order to find the slope and the slew rate.

 

Sine wave:

127kHz input frequency to the left, the time measurement with a delta of 4us in the middle and the voltage measurement with a delta of 1.02V on the right.

   

We can measure the slew rate by finding the slope, the voltage delta over the time delta.

 

Slew rate of sine wave:

 

Square pulse:
1kHz input frequency to the left, time measurement of 4.2us in the middle and voltage delta of 1.10V on the right.

  

 

Slew rate of square wave: 

 

Slew rate conclusion: The slew rates that I found were 0.255V/us for a sine wave and 0.261V/us for a square wave where the ideal one was 0.4V/us. The value is not extremely close to the ideal one in the datasheet, however it is close enough to be considered an accurate approximation. As stated before, it is very unlikely to produce the same values experimentally that exist through calculations because of outside factors that we did not take in account for the calculations or in the datasheet. These factors include variances in equipment quality, capacitance and overall experimental factors that add variance to the results. The results are very close considering that we did not use the same parameters in the data sheet.

 

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